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发表于 2014-10-30 22:27 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-30 22:32 | 显示全部楼层
对作者James Luceno的访谈及小说节选,收录于Insider第153期。







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 楼主| 发表于 2014-11-5 17:26 | 显示全部楼层
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第三章 Cold Case
…………Parts of the ship’s sensor array tower, which the Seps usually mounted aft rather than forward, appear to have come from the cruiser Lucid Voice, which saw action at Quell, Ryloth, and in a couple of other contested systems.”
Tarkin frowned. “How did the appropriation teams manage to miss confiscating that ship?”
“They didn’t, sir. Records show that the Lucid Voice was dismantled at the Bilbringi shipyards four years ago.”
Tarkin considered that. “In other words, some components of that vessel went missing.”
“Lost, stolen, sold, it’s impossible to say. Other sections of the warship appear to have come from the Invincible.”
Tarkin didn’t bother to mask his surprise. “That was Separatist Admiral Trench’s ship—destroyed during the Battle of Christophsis.”
“Partially destroyed, in any case. The ship was modular in design, and the modules that survived must have been worth salvaging and putting on the open market. …………

此处提到的两艘飞船,一艘出自设定书,一艘出自动画TCW。后者是特伦奇上将的旗舰。看来不仅特伦奇本人在克里斯托夫西斯上空逃过一劫,他的旗舰也以某种形式获得了新生。

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lucid_Voice
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Invincible

第四章 A Boy's Life
CYNOSURE OF THE Greater Seswenna sector of the Outer Rim, Eriadu could trace its history to the earliest era of the Republic. At that time, the galaxy’s dark age had ended, the Sith had been defeated and driven into hiding, and a true republic had emerged from the ashes. With a member of House Valorum presiding as Supreme Chancellor, a pan-galactic Senate had been created, and the military had been disbanded. Revitalized, the populations of the Core Worlds, ravenous for new resources and not above exploiting every opportunity to enhance the quality of their lives, were eager to expand their reach.

此处提到的成为最高议长的a member of House Valorum——http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tarsus_Valorum

第六章 Imperial Center
BRIGHT-SIDE CORUSCANT air-traffic control directed the Carrion Spike to the Imperial Palace, and there into a courtyard landing field that was large enough to accommodate Victory- and Venator-class Star Destroyers. As repulsors eased the ship down through the busy skyways and into the court, Tarkin realized that the Emperor’s current residence had once been the headquarters for the Jedi—though practically all that remained of the Order’s elegant Temple complex was its copse of five skyscraping spires, now the pinnacle of a sprawling amalgam of blockish edifaces with sloping façades

绝地圣殿……成了帝国宫。同时由后文可知,皇帝本人的居所就在圣殿中心尖塔的顶层。

Someone called his name as he and Amedda were moving down a colonnaded walkway, and Tarkin turned, recognizing the face of a man he had known since his academy years.
“Nils Tenant,” he said in genuine surprise, separating himself from the Chagrian’s retinue to shake Tenant’s proffered hand. Fair-skinned, with a prominent nose and a downturning full-lipped mouth, Tenant had commanded a Star Destroyer during the Clone Wars, and displayed on his uniform tunic the rank insignia plaque of a rear admiral.

Nils Tenant是TCW中出场的人物——http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tenant

Subjugator of pirates; former governor of Eriadu; graduate of Prefsbelt; naval officer during the Clone Wars, decorated at the Battle of Kamino and promoted to admiral after a daring escape from the Citadel prison; adjutant general by the war’s end, and named by the Emperor one of twenty Imperial Moffs …
塔金升官史……

正史化了瓦洛伦之前的最高议长——http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kalpana/Canon

塔金在军校期间就已经受到了帕尔帕廷的注意,后者甚至有意在政治方面特别栽培他。
另外——
“Of course I am,” Palpatine told him. “Our homeworlds are different in the sense that mine wished no part of galactic politics, while yours has long sought to be included. But I knew from early on that politics could provide me with a path to the center. Even so, I didn’t get to Coruscant fully on my own. I had the help of a … teacher. I was younger than you are now when this person helped me realize what I most wanted in life, and helped me attain it.”
此处的a teacher,在旧EU的体系下,普雷格斯无疑。

由于出身原因和个人原因,塔金在Judicial Academy的前期表现并不好,但在去Halcyon执行任务期间,他终于获得机会证明了自己的能力,在同学中赢得了极高的名气与地位。

第七章 Masters of War

Since the end of the war, Vader had on occasion been such a partner in Tarkin’s life, both in Geonosis space and in political and military campaigns that had taken them throughout the galaxy. Tarkin had long nursed suspicions about who Vader was beneath the black face mask and helmet, as well as how he had come to be, but he knew better than to give open voice to his thought.
…… ……

Tarkin didn’t always agree with Vader’s methods for dealing with those who opposed the Empire, but he held the Dark Lord in high esteem, and he hoped Vader felt the same toward him. Very early on in their partnership—soon after both had been introduced to the secret mobile battle station—Tarkin grew convinced that Vader knew him much better than he let on, and that behind the bulging lenses of his face mask, whatever remained of Vader’s human eyes regarded him with clear recognition. More than anything else it was those initial feelings that had provided Tarkin with his first suspicion as to Vader’s identity. Later, observing the rapport the Dark Lord shared with the stormtroopers who supported him, and the technique he displayed in wielding his crimson lightsaber, Tarkin grew more and more convinced that his suspicions were right.
Vader might very well be Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, whom Tarkin had fought beside during the Clone Wars, and for whom he had developed a grudging appreciation.

==塔金猜测维德很有可能就是阿纳金·天行者……

第八章 The Emperor's New Spies

Tarkin arrived by means of the more public turbolift, entering the vast room to find nearly a dozen people waiting, all of whom he knew or recognized, loosely divided into three groups that made up the Empire’s uppermost tiers. First, and positioned closest to the podium, was the Ruling Council, represented just then by Ars Dangor, Sate Pestage, and Janus Greejatus, all three dressed in baggy costumes of riotous color and floppy hats more befitting a night at the Coruscant Opera. More or less on equal footing, the two other groups were made up of members from the Imperial Security Bureau and the more recently created Naval Intelligence Agency, with Harus Ison and Colonel Wullf Yularen speaking for the former, and Vice Admirals Rancit and Screed for the latter. Feeling like the odd man out, Tarkin gravitated to where Mas Amedda and Darth Vader were standing, off to one side of the podium.
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ISB functioned under the auspices of COMPNOR, the Commission for the Preservation of the New Order, which itself had arisen from the dregs of the Commission for the Protection of the Republic

以上简介了帝国的部分机构:统治委员会、帝安局、海军情报机构及这些机构的部分高层。其中后文提到Harus Ison是现任的ISB(帝安局)的deputy director(副局长)。同时,帝安局与COMPNOR的关系也在新正史中得到确认。

Close to Tarkin’s age—though with more gray in his hair and especially in his bushy mustache—Yularen had traded a distinguished career in the Republic Navy for a position in Imperial Security, heading a division devoted to exposing instances of sedition in the Senate. He now served as a liaison between ISB and Military Intelligence.
结合上文与这一段,尤拉伦在克隆人战争后的去向被正史化:从海军转职到帝安局,领导了一个致力于揭发议会中煽动叛乱的行为的部门,同时充当帝安局与军事情报部门之间的联络人。

第九章 Dissolution

A plot had been foiled, a distraction laid to rest. Needless energy had been expended, and resources wasted. Eventually the dark side would grant him infallible foresight, but until such time future events would remain just out of clear sight, clouded by possibilities and the unremitting swirlings of the Force. He had made himself lord of all he surveyed, but he had much to learn. Actions meant to topple him from his lofty perch wouldn’t end with the successful containment of this most recent fiasco. But he would deal with any who chose to challenge him with the same precision he had applied to exterminating the Jedi. And he would not allow himself to be sidetracked from his goal of unlocking the secrets many of the Sith Masters before him had sought: the means to harness the powers of the dark side to reshape reality itself; in effect, to fashion a universe of his own creation. Not mere immortality of the sort Plagueis had lusted after, but influence of the ultimate sort.
As his Empire swelled, bringing more and more of the outer systems into its fold, so too would his power unfurl, until every being in the galaxy was held captive in his dark embrace.

所谓不想成神的皇帝不是好西斯?
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发表于 2014-11-7 08:14 | 显示全部楼层
花了快一天終於看完了,這本書很有意思啊,幾個細節很值得關注:
1、Mas Amedda確認在帝國任極高的職務(不知道vizier中文怎麼稱呼),外星人任高官這不光在帝國很少見,最重要的是這點符合之前EU的描述
2、在吉諾尼斯上的衛士基地和塔金的部隊中有很多女性角色,這點和上面與之前的資料里帝國重人類重男性的特征不同,不知道是帝國的通性還是特例
3、一些在EU出現過的飛船型號,比如Z-95啊護衛航母啊,不過與EU不同的是護衛航母在這裡並不是衝鋒突擊隊的專屬
4、與TCW和EP4的結合,講到很多有關克里斯托弗斯戰役的細節,還有塔金本人的飛船就是根據那裡的隱形飛船改進的;同時EP4里出現的Motti,Tagge,還有尤拉倫也都有出場
感覺這裡最讓人欣慰的就是看來迪士尼不會對原有的EU做太大幅度的修改了
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-11-7 11:36 | 显示全部楼层
davidxiao 发表于 2014-11-7 08:14
花了快一天終於看完了,這本書很有意思啊,幾個細節很值得關注:
1、Mas Amedda確認在帝國任極高的職務(不 ...

迪斯尼的EP7肯定还是会对EU动大刀子的,Tarkin大量引用EU和TCW元素只能算是官方默许了的典型James Luceno风格……
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发表于 2014-11-7 15:33 | 显示全部楼层
davidxiao 发表于 2014-11-7 08:14
花了快一天終於看完了,這本書很有意思啊,幾個細節很值得關注:
1、Mas Amedda確認在帝國任極高的職務(不 ...

在现实世界,Vizier是穆斯林国家的官职名称,一般是音译为“维齐尔”。《星球大战》里的银河帝国用这个官名是在向奥斯曼帝国致敬——不要感到惊讶,欧美科幻作品里的太空帝国或多或少都带有奥斯曼帝国的特征,比如《沙丘》里的那个“旧帝国”也是如此,相比之下,银河帝国的奥斯曼色彩其实很弱。银河帝国拥有这个头衔的是马斯·阿梅达和塞特·佩斯塔奇(Sate Pestage),头衔全称是“Grand Vizier”,星球大战中文网将其意译为“总理大臣”。
消灭西斯,自由属于人民!
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-11-9 11:58 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 墨雪飘·痕 于 2014-11-9 12:13 编辑

——关于部分章节的标题——


Chapter 1: The Measure of a Man
标题“The Measure of a Man”语出圣经。具体如下
http://shengjing.jidujiao.com/Rev_21.php
新约:启示录:21:17 又量了城墙,按着人的尺寸,就是天使的尺寸,共有一百四十四肘。
And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

Chapter 10: A Better Womp Rat Trap
标题“A Better Womp Rat Trap”化用自英语习语“build a better mousetrap”。具体如下:
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/build+a+better+mousetrap

Chapter 22: Red, in Tooth and Claw
标题“Red, in Tooth and Claw”语出英国诗人阿尔弗雷德·丁尼生的诗句,大致可以理解为“弱肉强食”之类的意思。具体如下
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/red-in-tooth-and-claw.html

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发表于 2014-11-13 10:42 | 显示全部楼层
写的很好,虽然没有普雷格斯那么波澜壮阔吧,主体剧情还是应对出现在帝国内部的叛乱(应该说一部分是原共和国的成员)。揭露了帝国转型后,塔金对邦联残余极其心狠手辣,用一场屠杀来示众要其他星球把邦联的残余都叫出来,结果引起星系民众不满后还被皇帝调离来躲风头。也因此误伤了一些共和国原先情报成员,引起了他们的不满。


文中也用不少笔墨写了塔金年轻时候和叔叔在环境恶劣的星球上各种试炼并却塑造三观。他是那种极其崇敬秩序厌恶混乱的人,为此不惜以暴行和恐惧来维持这一点,甚至他还觉得杀鸡儆猴是塑造秩序中所不可少的。在斗智斗勇中,他也用了自己叔叔当年对自己的教导来分析对手/猎物的思维方式。


塔金和杜库在战争之前有多次接触,杜库多次希望他和他的辖区能加入邦联。


可以说作者James Luceno还是尽力在新正史中保留他之前普雷格斯小说的情节,多次在PPT的回忆中提到了普雷格斯,11-4D也有出场作为PPT的御用机器人。


此外,这里揭露了重要一点,绝地圣殿是在一个地下古西斯神祠上面建造的,就是因为这个原因,PPT才会将绝地圣殿作为自己的之所。PPT的目的不光是永生,还要通过黑暗原力获得重塑现实的能力来重造世界,而且PPT可以和维达进行超远距离直接原力交谈。
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